【新闻】帕奎奥注定要遭受阿里,伦纳德和其他人一样的命运么?

9
回复
552
查看
[ 复制链接 ]

1248

主题

424

回帖

4194

积分

论坛元老

积分
4194
2023-10-23 07:51:56 显示全部楼层 阅读模式
迈克尔.罗森塔尔

许多上了年纪的拳手——包括许多伟大的拳手——都在拳台上待得太久了。

原因很简单,虽然衰退中,但有时也可以击败对手。而且,如果不接受训练,就不知道该干点什么。虽然赚的不再那么多,但仍然比很多人多。长此已久,从而造成一些累积的伤害,从阿里到伦纳德,从德拉霍亚到霍普金斯,例子很多。

40岁的帕奎奥,他将于7月20日在拉斯维加斯与30岁的瑟曼决斗。与其他许多即将退役的伟大拳手的不同之处在于,他仍然能够战斗,就像他在今年1月轻松击败布罗纳那样。除了147磅重的几名强手外,他仍然可以击败其他人。

帕奎奥有什么问题呢?因为瑟曼是为数不多的几个人之一,这可能会把帕奎奥带向他伟大的前辈们同样不幸的道路。

瑟曼本周说的也许是对的,“我要像帕奎奥对待奥德拉霍亚那样对待帕奎奥。”

帕奎奥有理由打这场比赛,或许理由很充分。在对阵布罗纳的比赛中,他再次给人留下了深刻的印象。他不是全盛时期的重炮手,在147磅几乎没有什么力量优势,他十年来只有一场击倒。但他总是健康,保留了他的速度和从那些疯狂的角度击中对手,几乎能够与所有人保持竞争力。

另外,还有一些关于瑟曼的问题。他在2016年和2017年击败波特和丹尼.加西亚时达到巅峰,确立了自己作为精英拳手的地位,但随后伤病不断,离开拳击两年。今年1月,他在对阵洛佩兹的比赛中表现平平,最终以点数获胜。

瑟曼的表现是久疏拳台生锈的结果,还是时间的流逝造成了更大的伤害?我们不知道瑟曼是否已经恢复了他之前的状态,直到他和帕奎奥一起在米高梅大酒店步入拳台。

坦白的说,我一直对瑟曼心存疑虑。这位WBA冠军显然很有天赋,你不能无视他的战绩(29-0,22次击倒对手),但他最近的比赛打得太过小心,尤其是在他最大的测试中,就好像他是在为不输而战,而不是为了成为伟大拳手而冒险。

因此,如果帕奎奥(61-7-2,39KO)如果能超越瑟曼,我不会感到震惊。我只是觉得它不会发生,它可能会打得很难看。

第一,虽然帕奎奥战胜布罗纳令人印象深刻,但对这场战斗进行过多解读可能不是一个好主意,布鲁纳令人生畏的时期是135磅及以下。在最近的几场比赛中,他并没有打出足够的重拳——据CompuBox统计,在与帕奎奥的比赛中,他每回合只打出了25拳。

第二,40岁和30岁的人在身体素质上有很大的不同,特别是像瑟曼这样的30岁的速度。在他职业生涯的这个阶段,帕奎奥根本无法与瑟曼的工具相匹敌。

这就是为什么本周他试图刺激瑟曼进行一场肉搏战,他说;“基思·瑟曼很有侵略性,会给对手很多重拳。我希望在7月20日,他能坚持他说的话,和我正面交锋。“帕奎奥知道,要追捕瑟曼是很困难的,如果这就是他的目的。”

第三,帕奎奥在147磅重量属于很低的那种,而瑟曼整个职业生涯中都以重量还是略高于正常重量。

第四,瑟曼知道这是他职业生涯的机会, 他有机会证明自己不仅仅是一个优秀的拳手,而是一个特殊的拳手,他永远不会有其它更多的动力。

这就是我担心帕奎奥的原因,不难想象, 一场一边倒的殴打,让人想起了其他名人堂拳手的可怕回忆,他们需要这样的重击才能说服他们退役。

我希望我错了。我希望帕奎奥有足够的实力与瑟曼竞争,在自己的力量下昂首阔步走出赛场。伟大的拳手们在比赛的最后时刻总是表现出色。

作者迈克尔.罗森塔尔是2018年美国拳击作家协会,拳击新闻优秀奖的获得者。他在洛杉矶和其他地方报道拳击已经将近30年了。
Is Pacquiao Destined To Suffer The Fate of Ali, Leonard & Others? d1.jpg

By Michael Rosenthal

A lot of aging fighters – including many great ones – stay too long.

And it’s easy to understand why. They believe they can still fight when sometimes they can’t, at least not the way they used to. They wouldn’t know what to do with themselves if they weren’t training. And, perhaps most important, they often can still make a good living even though they’re in decline.

The down side is that the result of fighting even one time too many can be a disturbing beating. From Ali to Leonard to De La Hoya to Hopkins, the examples are many.

Which brings us to 40-year-old Manny Pacquiao, who is scheduled to fight unbeaten 30-year-old Keith Thurman on July 20 in Las Vegas.

The difference between Pacquiao and many other great fighters nearing retirement is that he CAN still fight, as he demonstrated by easily outpointing four-division titleholder Adrien Broner this past January. He can beat all but a few of the top 147-pounders.

The problem for Pacquiao? Thurman is one of those few, which could lead him down the same ill-fated path of his great predecessors.

Thurman might be right when he said this week, "I'm going to do to Manny Pacquiao what Manny Pacquiao did to Oscar de La Hoya,” an ominous reference to Pacquiao’s brutal, career-ending knockout of the Golden Boy in 2008.

A case can be made in Pacquiao’s favor, perhaps a strong case. Again, he was impressive against Broner. He isn’t the volume puncher he was in his heyday and has little power at 147 pounds – he has only one knockout in a decade – but he’s always fit, has retained much of his quickness and still throws enough shots from those crazy angles to remain competitive with almost anyone.

Plus, there are questions surrounding Thurman. He peaked when he outpointed Shawn Porter and Danny Garcia is 2016 and 2017, establishing himself as an elite talent, but then went down from injuries and was away for two years. He looked so-so in his return against Josesito Lopez in January, which he won by majority decision.

Was Thurman’s performance the result of ring rust? Or has the time away done more significant damage? We won’t know whether Thurman has regained his pre-hiatus form until he steps into the ring with Pacquiao at the MGM Grand.

d2.jpg

And, frankly, I’ve always had doubts about Thurman. The WBA titleholder obviously is gifted and you can’t argue against his record (29-0, 22 knockouts) but he has fought too carefully for my taste, especially in his biggest tests, as if he was fighting not to lose rather than taking the risks required to be great.

Thus, I won’t be shocked if Pacquiao (61-7-2, 39 KOs) manages to get past Thurman. I just don’t think it’ll happen. And it could get ugly.

One, while Pacquiao’s victory over Broner was impressive, it might not be a good idea to read too much into that fight. Broner was formidable at 135 pounds and below but only solid above that weight. And he hasn’t thrown enough punches in recent fights – only 25 per round against Pacquiao, according to CompuBox – to succeed.

Two, there generally is a big difference between a 40-year-old and a 30-year-old in terms of physical attributes, particularly a quick, athletic 30-year-old like Thurman. Pacquiao simply can’t match Thurman’s tools at this stage of the old man’s career.

That’s why this week he has tried to goad Thurman into a toe-to-toe battle, saying “Keith Thurman is aggressive and throws a lot of punches. I’m hoping on July 20 he will follow through with what he says and fight toe-to-toe with me.” Pacquiao knows it will be difficult to chase down Thurman, if that’s what it comes down to.

Three, this is a matchup between a small welterweight (Pacquiao) and one who has fought at the weight or slightly above it his entire career (Thurman). That also will work in the titleholder’s favor.

And, four, Thurman knows this is the opportunity of his career, his chance to demonstrate that he’s not merely a good fighter but a special one. He will never be more motivated.

All that is why I fear for Pacquiao. It’s not difficult to envision a one-sided beating that brings back awful memories of other Hall of Fame fighters who needed such a pounding to convince them to retire.

I hope I’m wrong. I hope Pacquiao has enough left to be competitive with Thurman and walk out of the ring under his own power, with his head held high.

Great fighters have been known to extract one last great performance out of themselves late in the game.

I worry that I’m right.

Michael Rosenthal was the 2018 winner of the Boxing Writers Association of America’s Nat Fleischer Award for excellence in boxing journalism. He has covered boxing in Los Angeles and beyond for almost three decades. Follow him at @mrosenthal_box.

收藏
送赞
分享
使用道具
举报

0

主题

397

回帖

389

积分

中级会员

积分
389
2023-10-23 07:52:42 显示全部楼层
回复

举报

d1.gif
回复
使用道具
举报

0

主题

447

回帖

10

积分

新手上路

积分
10
2023-10-23 07:53:00 显示全部楼层
回复

举报

闲哥 篇幅越来越壮阔 d1.gif d2.gif   
雄文
回复
使用道具
举报

0

主题

454

回帖

10

积分

新手上路

积分
10
2023-10-23 07:53:59 显示全部楼层
回复

举报

这就是我担心帕奎奥的原因,不难想象, 一场一边倒的殴打,让人想起了其他名人堂拳手的可怕回忆,他们需要这样的重击才能说服他们退役。


不做实的挨上一顿臭揍,说服他们退役最好用拳头 d1.gif
回复
使用道具
举报

0

主题

433

回帖

428

积分

中级会员

积分
428
2023-10-23 07:54:36 显示全部楼层
回复

举报

趴趴和霍亚不同,154的霍亚还是不错的,割肉12磅,让他极度虚弱,现在的趴趴不存在这样的问题,趴趴确实在滑落,瑟曼的状态也不佳,一切都有悬念,虽然趴趴不被看好,机会还是有的。
回复
使用道具
举报

0

主题

455

回帖

460

积分

中级会员

积分
460
2023-10-23 07:55:03 显示全部楼层
回复

举报

瑟曼如拿下帕帕147可以跟克劳小斯争第一,打谁都赚钱。
回复
使用道具
举报

0

主题

405

回帖

407

积分

中级会员

积分
407
2023-10-23 07:55:54 显示全部楼层
回复

举报



拳手是第一个知道 ‘我行’的人,最后一个知道‘我不行’的人。除非在残酷的事实面前,很难说服一个冠军放弃。。。
回复
使用道具
举报

1203

主题

414

回帖

4033

积分

论坛元老

积分
4033
2023-10-23 07:56:42 显示全部楼层
回复

举报

言论太片面了
没把趴趴第三次发育的情况估计进去 d1.gif
回复
使用道具
举报

0

主题

469

回帖

471

积分

中级会员

积分
471
2023-10-23 07:57:19 显示全部楼层
回复

举报

40岁的人还在坚持,难得!只要是自己喜欢做的就OK.
回复
使用道具
举报

0

主题

430

回帖

428

积分

中级会员

积分
428
2023-10-23 07:57:47 显示全部楼层
回复

举报

帕奎奥很有可能在追击瑟曼的时候被瑟曼的突然反击给ko.
回复
使用道具
举报
您需要登录后才可以回帖 登录 | 立即注册  

本版积分规则